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DM10X - Sound routing issues and crosstalk

i recently bought the DM10X and i am having trouble with sound issues. when i play the drums using headphones, the sound is excellent. however; using my PA system, i cannot get my kicks to sound correctly. they sound terrible.. on some of the kits you cannot hear sound at all from the kick while others produce a very weird sound and at extremely low volume. please note that i also own a dm6 and it sounds great on the PA system.

by the way, alesis' customer care is a disappointment! thats a nice slogan you have on the top of the page: "alesis employees are here to help".. strange i cannot seem to get any of them to reply to my concerns!
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  • Hello Khaldoun Malhas, it looks like this is the first time you have posted here so Im not sure what channel you were using to get answered before. Anyhow, there is a main out and an aux out on your module. Are you using the 'main out' to connect the PA system?

    There is a routing menu, make sure the kicks are not routed to the aux.

    Press EDIT INST to edit drum Voice parameters. Then toggle with the 'MORE' tab until you see 'OTHER.' This is where you can route the output of the voice. Make sure the whole kit is going through the 'MAIN' option.
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  • Thank you for your quick reply sandeen.. I always send emails using the "contact us" button on alesis' homepage.. I never get replies.. This is the first time I post here and I'm glad that I did.. Thanks again..

    Unfortunately, your suggestion did not work.. The output of the voice is set to "main".. In fact, I changed the voice pattern on the snare (which worked fine) to play kick voices and the same problem occurred, a low-volume distorted unnatural sound..

    What else could it be.. I can try to record the sound for you but how can I send it to you?
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  • Sandeen,

    I want to thank you again for your help. I solved the problem. It turns out that the cable I was using to connect the module to the pa system was the source of the problem. Apparently the cable is very low in quality (eventhough the sseller said that its a top brand!) With that, I'm happy to say that everything sounds excellent. I do have a few questions for you though:

    1. Why are there 2 main outputs and 2 aux ones (left & right)..? (most amplifiers take only one input per source) am I missing out on anything if I use only one of the main/aux outputs?

    2. What exactly are layers A&B and what would I use layer B for?

    3. I feel that the toms are loud, can I make there volume permanently lower for all kits without decreasing there sensitivities? I tried using the fader but the problem is that it is not permanent. I lose my faderue settings when I turn off the module..

    4. I'm confused when it comes to xtalk send and xtalk receive and when to use either one.. The operators manual was unclear about it.

    5. Is there some optimum configuration for the trigger settings to eliminate crosstalk? If not, is there a preferable methodology.. (I've heard that it is better to increase threshold than increasing xtalk) so I'm wondering if there is a correct approach to eliminating crosstalk..

    6. I'm finding it very difficult to configure the ride.. I need to hit the bell really hard to trigger it and 90% of the time, the bow triggers as well.. What can I do to get the bell triggered on smooth and subtle strikes?

    Again, thanks for all your help!
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  • Glad I could help.

    1. The aux can send a different mix. You will always want a stereo feed to hear the stereo image (or panning) of the kit. Although, you can run it mono (just left side) if you wish.

    2. The 'layers' are the voices/samples. You can have two voices assigned to the pad.

    3. You can save the configuration to a user kit for future recall. Just make sure the 'write protection' is OFF:

    -Press UTILITY .
    -Press SYS (F4).
    -Press O/S (F3).
    -Press MEM (F4).
    -Press V ALUE DOWN or move the VALUE DIAL counterclockwise until the "WriteProt" field says "OFF."
    -Press DRUM KIT to return to the main page.

    4-5. Every time you strike a pad, the whole kit vibrates. Vibrations travel through the kit rack and can sometimes trigger other pads. This tendency is known as ‘crosstalk’, and due to the physical nature of drums, it is unavoidable (even on an acoustic kit). The DM10 Module comes prepared with a “Crosstalk” (or ‘Xtalk’) setting. A more accurate description of this setting would be “Crosstalk compensation”, as there really isn’t a way to prevent the physical tendency for vibrations to travel. This setting, however, uses an algorithm to separate intentional hits, from unintentional crosstalk triggers; the result, when tweaked correctly, is that you only hear sounds you want to hear.


    • Press “Ext. Trig”

    • On top of the screen, rotate the value wheel to select the trigger you’d like to adjust

    • Press ‘F2’ for ‘Trig’

    • You’ll notice three ‘Xtalk’ settings: ‘Xtalk Send’, ‘Xtalk Receive’, and ‘ZoneXtalk’. ‘Xtalk Send’ describes the trigger’s tendency to cause adjacent pads to trigger when struck. ‘Xtalk Receive’ describes the trigger’s tendency to be triggered when an adjacent pad is struck. Lastly, ‘ZoneXTalk’ affects how likely a dual zone trigger is to cause crosstalk upon itself. For example, a Ride Bell and Ride Bow.

    • Here’s where things get tricky. Each of these settings can be adjusted from 1-7. Since the setting is really ‘Crosstalk Compensation’, the higher the value, the less likely the pad is to send or receive Crosstalk. Here’s the catch: It may be tempting to simply turn it all the way up. But remember that the DM10 is using a smart algorithm to try to ‘weed out’ crosstalk from intentional hits. If you turn it all the way up, you may find that it mistakenly mutes some of your strikes, writing them off as crosstalk. Try to find a balance (ideally somewhere in the middle) with any problem pads, as well as their surrounding pads that are sending crosstalk.

    • Don’t forget to press the ‘store’ key to save your settings each time you make a change!



    6. You can increase the sensitivity through the same menu as the crosstalk.
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    again i want to thank you sandeen. your reply was very helpful in helping me understand my new kit.
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